Sep 12, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04
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#1
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
Guild: Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]
Profession: P/
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Countering the new IWAY
I play necro in pvp mainly and am getting quite annoyed at the new IWAYs or warriors using the new and improved Defy Pain. SS and Insidious is no longer "shutting down" melee or even doing enough dmg to do anything to the warrior. How have you guys dealed with these on a necro? Or if u've killed them on other classes, please tell.
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Sep 12, 2008, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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#2
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Guild: Enraged Whiny Carebears [oR]
Profession: W/E
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[vocal minority]
onetwothreefour
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Sep 12, 2008, 11:24 PM // 23:24
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#3
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Emo Goth Italics
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Have an Earth Ele and it's GG.
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Sep 12, 2008, 11:56 PM // 23:56
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#4
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: N/
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[well of silence]
/yawn. 12chars
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Sep 13, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45
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#5
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
Guild: Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]
Profession: P/
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sry i dun think i made this clear. Most of them I have seen don't use IWAY just Defy Pain. Anyway to disable the skill other than being a dom mesmer?
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Sep 13, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51
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#6
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: N/
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[ancestors visage][sympatheitc visage]
Usually the way to beat IWAY(or w.e the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you wanna call it) is to all ball up and abuse some shit. There are other skills that remove all adren but im tired and cant be arsed thinking much
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Sep 13, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47
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#7
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Character selection screen figuring what I want to play...
Guild: Purple Lingerie - :D
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Kite in ward against foes all match and kill the necro 1st. And also [email protected] pain in pvp. I will keep my evis.
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Sep 15, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22
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#8
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Volterra, Italy
Profession: A/
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defy pain...pvp? tanking sucks...yea both visages obviously counter it.
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Sep 15, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27
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#9
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2007
Guild: [PhD]
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Sooooooooooothing ImAgeZ
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Sep 15, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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#10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Toronto
Guild: Real Eyes Realize Real Lies[Tree]
Profession: P/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by illidan009
defy pain...pvp? tanking sucks...yea both visages obviously counter it.
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I see alot of groups running 7 Defy Pain IWAYs and 1 N/Rt for OoV...They tear most balanced groups up but i must admit they have little to no chance of winning the relic run
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Sep 15, 2008, 09:26 PM // 21:26
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#11
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Emo Goth Italics
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Are you sure those balanced groups aren't extremely bad?
Abusing AoE = win. Abusing Earth AoE = sexy win.
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Sep 15, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
Guild: [CDEX]
Profession: R/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gift3d
[vocal minority]
onetwothreefour
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eh, not effected as much as you think it is...
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Oct 01, 2008, 11:22 PM // 23:22
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#13
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The Falls
Profession: N/A
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Just rush them and dont kill the pets
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Oct 02, 2008, 05:48 AM // 05:48
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#14
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: New Zealand
Guild: [WTF]
Profession: W/
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IWAY is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin unbeatable, you should know that LOL sorry jj um use AV/SV or similar
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Oct 02, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51
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#15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: By the Luxon Scavenger
Guild: The Mentalists [THPK]
Profession: N/
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If they don't use IWAY, killing pets shouldn't be a problem?
I haven't play against it just want to know.
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Oct 02, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02
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#16
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: Lowbird Academy [LoW]
Profession: W/
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how does insidious not work with defy pain?
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Oct 02, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39
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#17
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Permanently Banned
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern Ireland
Guild: Nowhere To Run Nowhere To [Hide]
Profession: N/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PyrAnkh
how does insidious not work with defy pain?
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The OP seems confused. SS and IP never ever "shut down" They are reactive hexes requiring the hexed foe to do something,hence ineffective when the foe kites/does nothing
Life stealing (sacrifice +degeneration included) does not count as "damage" and isn't reduced by defy
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Oct 03, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18
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#18
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: behind you
Guild: bumble bee
Profession: E/
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bring lots of wells and wards. heheh. no energy, not doing any damage, can't walk out of ward = dead
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Oct 06, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46
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#19
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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Guild: Black Widows of Death
Profession: W/Mo
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AS said before [Soothing Images] Will turn the green light on you for a target. Fun skill to use in PVP. Pisses warriors off big time.
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Oct 06, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40
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#20
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sardelec yelling at Tenshi
Guild: Angels Of Strife
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Painbringer
AS said before [Soothing Images] Will turn the green light on you for a target. Fun skill to use in PVP. Pisses warriors off big time.
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thats why i make it a point to kill any mes that uses that skill first on my warrior. cant say how many times i've seen that save someone in pvp. And yet they are still mostly used in farming....granted thats where they may be the most effective.
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